Top 10 Most Depressing Quotes from Orwell's 1984
#10 - TRAMPLED UPON
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"Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain."

#09 - THOUGHT POLICE
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"There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."

#08 - THREE SLOGANS
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"From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH."

#07 - HOLLOW
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"Never again will you be capable of ordinary human feeling. Everything will be dead inside you. Never again will you be capable of love, or friendship, or joy of living, or laughter, or curiosity, or courage, or integrity. You will be hollow. We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves."

#06 - PURE POWER
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"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."

#05 - ERRONEOUS THOUGHT
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"We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."

#04 - PERFECT UNITY
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"The ideal set up by the Party was something huge, terrible, and glittering—a world of steel and concrete, of monstrous machines and terrifying weapons—a nation of warriors and fanatics, marching forward in perfect unity, all thinking the same thoughts and shouting the same slogans, perpetually working, fighting, triumphing, persecuting—three hundred million people all with the same face."

#03 - ECSTASY OF FEAR
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"A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."

#02 - A PICTURE OF THE FUTURE
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"We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent there will be no need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this Winston—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever."

#01 - VICTORY **Spoiler Alert!**
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"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

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User Comments - Add a Comment
furd - 2008-03-12 08:01:03
"And I believe that totalitarianism, if not fought against, could triumph again." - George Orwell
Digg - 2008-03-12 21:04:47
I am digg FEAR ME
Asrrin29 - 2008-03-12 21:24:47
Freedom is the freedom to say that 2 + 2 = 4. All else shall follow.
abraxas - 2008-03-12 21:27:47
not to forget.... "underneath the spreading chestnut tree, i sold you and you sold me" genius.
@Digg - 2008-03-12 21:30:37
Ha! With your fascistic GoDaddy sponsorships and all! Fear Digg? Not after its owners become sellouts. It will happen, and it will taste of boot upon face. Fight it, violently.
Seb - 2008-03-12 21:45:30
Don't fucking quote the ending u silly noobs
mgroves - 2008-03-12 22:11:38
I would've selected "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever." as #1, personally. It just paints a picture of eternal hopelessness.
Alexandre Wilson - 2008-03-12 22:19:32
What a coincidence. I just read this book! Amazing piece of literature.
Digg User - 2008-03-12 22:30:28
Digg is nothing to be afraid of, it is the 15 min. hate in 1984 that never ends.
Scorpio - 2008-03-12 23:09:26
Many of the quotes are frightfully remenisent of current neo-con behavior and philosophy. If they manage to steal another "election", we may not be able to turn the tide of their quest for totalitarianism.
ryanwmu - 2008-03-12 23:32:54
quoting the end is too easy, although it is quite extraordinary. his writing style is beautiful. political satire has never been the same since.
O_P - 2008-03-12 23:33:07
"Seb - 2008-03-12 21:45:30 Don't fucking quote the ending u silly noobs" Quoted for truth.
Anon - 2008-03-12 23:39:20
"Sanity is not statistical" To be honest, there are better quotes in there, far more powerful because they raise serious questions about current politics and morality/philosophy, but still... nice to see a list made, and on digg.com as well :) And quoting the ending is a bit harsh in that it was such as shocker for me, I wouldnt of wanted it spoiled... any other book I wouldnt mind...
Shandooga - 2008-03-12 23:53:22
All this time we thought "1984" was written as a warning. Apparently, the Gatling effect still applies; some have received it as an instruction.
mike - 2008-03-12 23:57:20
depressingly familial. Homeland security anyone?
phase_shyfter - 2008-03-13 00:11:41
Brilliant masterpiece, only problem was that it was set almost a quarter of a century before the fact, maybe it was an intentional heads-up... and just to reiterate, good job on quoting the end, lmao...
1984 Orwell is ALREADY here... you Brainwashed Idiots - 2008-03-13 00:42:50
Empire of Cities :Ring of Power (google video, youtube and downloadable at The PirateBay.com) and ZEITGEISTmovie.com. The New World Order is upon us. STOP THE FREEMASONS, FASCIST ZIONISTS, AND THE ULTRA WEALTHY ELITE OR BE CRUSHED UNDER THEIR FEET.
Big Thanks - 2008-03-13 03:20:00
The further I read, the more I wanted to read the book. But the last quote made me reconsider. Thanks for the spoiler, fuckface.
Morgan - 2008-03-13 07:36:51
believe it or not, my friend's kid got suspended from school 2 years back for writing his book report on 1984 and relating it to present day America. The teacher actually called the essay unpatriotic. Insanity..
Garret Jax - 2008-03-13 08:01:09
The ending isn't the important part of the book. After all the largest portion of the book lies before it. Furthermore, if we quoted every ending to every book, we probably wouldn't be spoiling very much. If he determines the last quote is the biggest impression, the best you can do is provide a quote you think trumps his.
Mox - 2008-03-13 08:54:04
The book is almost 60 years old! It's kind of ridiculous to never expect to hear about the ending at this point. There was even a spoiler warning. Just read the thing already.
Anonymous - 2008-03-13 08:54:38
Arguably the greatest satircal novel as well as a contender as the greatest novel. For those moaning about the spoiler at the end: the article is call "Top 10 Most Depressing Quotes from Orwell's 1984" and none were more depressing than the victory over Winston Smith. And those that refuse to read it now because of the spoiler, then you are not the likely audience, simply because, although it is a gripping read, Orwell clearly intended the reader to modify their outlook and actions accordingly and not just to entertain you for a couple of hours.
stukpixel - 2008-03-13 09:03:03
Great book. Good quotes.
Big Brother - 2008-03-13 09:04:42
I love how people quote a work of fiction like it's the bible. I'm sorry the government hasn't legalized pot douchebags.
For your health - 2008-03-13 09:42:58
Remember kids: BIG BROTHER IS A PEDOPHILE If he promises you a toy or candy, that means he's trying to fuck you. If he gets his hands on you, it may already be too late to say "no". Big Brother is a known member of the NAGCLA - North American Government-Citizen Love Association. If you see Big Brother in your neighborhood, break his cameras with rocks and never get into his van, even if he offers you a Barbie.
in4m8ionman - 2008-03-13 09:43:09
scorpio - you have a lot to learn my friend. You are being fed the party line and you are able to repeat it perfectly. I hope that some day you will finally understand that the real totalitarians are already here and they come from the left - they take your money and give it to others, they want to force you to get your healthcare from them, and on and on - all because they can't trust you to do it on your own because you are too stupid and too unrefined - you have become a member of the herd. I find 1984 fantastic because of all the things that exist already in society - I find it very interesting how Mr. Orwell talks about the Press manipulating reality to support the agenda. Happens every day. Wake up people.
Jesus - 2008-03-13 09:44:14
"I love how people quote a work of fiction like it's the bible." For all you know the Bible is a work of fiction too. Don't even get me started...
Geo - 2008-03-13 09:49:01
I love how people quote the bible like its some sort of non-fiction. Idiots.
will - 2008-03-13 11:09:49
I always found the 2+2=5 passage to be very moving, i was surprised that you did not include this one.
Laura - 2008-03-13 12:33:47
Amazing book and the ending was very depressing but brilliant at the same time glad you included it.
Thomas Paine - 2008-03-13 16:40:40
Good call on the left trying to control you. That's exactly what they want to do. But nope, we'll follow along like the good stupid cattle we are. I found this on the Internet off a different blog. http://www.hostbarracks.com/obama4.php It's a pic of Obama with the caption: WWBOD? LOL We're so gullible!
Anonymous - 2008-03-13 17:44:43
do you really read a list of quotes and not expect to see any spoilers? don't read the quotes then.
lebowski - 2008-03-13 18:29:17
i believe that the emerging north american dictatorship will not be the last but a world dictatorship will follow soon destroying all countries and mergingthem to one nightmare.
Oz_ - 2008-03-13 18:43:40
Great quotes, but the scariest one, in my opinion, was: (SPOILER ALERT!) "Do anything to me! You've been starving me for weeks. Finish it off and let me die here. Shoot me. Hang me. Sentence me to twenty-five years. Is there somebody else you want me to give away? Just say who it is and I'll tell you anything you want. I don't care who it is or what you do to them. I've got a wife and three children. The biggest of them isn't six years old. You can take the whole lot of them and cut their throats in front of my eyes, and I'll stand by and watch it. But not room 101!" - the skull-faced man, 1984
WTF!!!! - 2008-03-13 22:08:51
Don't quote the end!!!! FUCK!!
Kira - 2008-03-13 22:19:32
This sounds like the company I work for! "There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."
jim johnson - 2008-03-13 23:21:55
Orwell nailed life under Islam.
bluezombie - 2008-03-14 08:42:56
"Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson In other words, they can't do it to you without at least your tacit permission. See also ... "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." --Edmund Burke
JP - 2008-03-14 12:05:09
Those who think 1984 is a criticism of "the left" are ignorant of the beliefs of Orwell. He was a convinced man of the left but he was disgusted with the totalitarian USSR and marxist-leninism. He believed in social justice and individual freedom, just like any modern left-winger, unlike the right who are only, in the words of John Kenneth Galbraith: "[The modern conservative is] engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." Totalitarian ideologies exist on all degrees of the scale, from left to right: soviet communism, present day chinese state-capitalism (modern maoist communism), north-korean communism, mussolini fascism, franco fascism, pinochet militaristic fascism, burmese military fascism and so on and on... Right now, in the US, the White House right-wing hawks are the ones to look out for when it comes to paving the way of big brother!
Matt - 2008-03-14 19:05:57
Left, right.. just different sides on the same two-headed beast.
Jaxon Brown - 2008-03-15 09:51:18
How in God's name could "Double plus good" not be in the Top 10?
in4m8ionman - 2008-03-15 18:11:10
JP - That was really funny - Individual Freedom - the left - really. And can you say that you are for social justice AND individual freedom in the same sentence? Isn't that kind of oxymoronic? I don't disagree that many of the modern Republican (Party) ideas would also send us in the wrong direction - but I can't agree that an administration that is fighting against a regime that demands total submission for a MAJOR part of its society and promotes jihad against anyone that dares to debate their ways is in any way "Big Brother" - Unless you mean a "Big Brother" that will stand up against a bully on the playground - then I agree. (more agreement to follow) On your Totalitarian Ideologies statements - yep - right there with you. But Folks - again - today's mainstream society is dominated by groups of individuals that are outright lying to you and prompting you to believe things by repeating the message until you believe it. The hypocrisy can be cut into slices it is so thick! Latest case in point - research project - at what point did your local paper mention that Gov. Spitzer was a Democrat? I believe in the NYT - it was around paragraph 15! Quickly followed by the obligatory mention of REPUBLICAN LARRY CRAIG's scum-bag ways. Sure it seems funny - but it stops being funny right around the time your job is to go back and alter the old news to reflect current thought (1984 reference). I don't care who you are - but wake up - you are being programmed to believe things - LEFT - RIGHT - Republican - Democrat - you are being programmed by the very thing that once freed us by bringing us the truth - folks - it is NOT THE TRUTH ANYMORE!
nikolai - 2008-03-17 11:57:18
The things in 1984 which you can directly relate to today's gov't such as spying on citizens, using patriotic propaganda, waging war for peace, etc, are the things that you SEE. What about other things that are NOT so obvious? For example, a friend told me to google "Chemtrails." I did so and found a site with the kooky idea that the gov't was using aerial spraying to blanket us with unknown chemicals for unknown reasons. The proof? Just look up at the jet trails that crisscross the skies! Like I said, I thought this was a pretty kooky idea at first, but I live in Phoenix AZ and I began to keep an eye on these "chemtrails" and now I DO believe something is being sprayed. Case in point, one of the planes was fairly low, and I could see puffs every 100-200 yards or so along the contrail(chemtrail). My son even commented, "It looks like a centipede"! Another day, we had a beautiful cloudless sky, and during the day jet after jet crisscrossed the sky leaving a web of trails until there was (what appeared to be) total cloud cover! You could easily see where the contrails/chemtrails of the planes had been widened and spread out until they webbed together then finally formed one united covering. There was a "sheen" to the light from the sun, that looked remarkably like the sheen when oil is sprayed up into moist air. Maybe this spraying is for bird flu vaccine, after all, the gov't has already stated that migratory birds could spread the bird flu easily, as there's no way they could be controlled, or, maybe it's something more sinister. Whatever the case, I DO now believe the go'vt is spraying SOMETHING, some type of chemical(s) on us regularly. Crazy? I used to think so too, but I don't think it's a crazy idea anymore. Check into this for yourselves, whatever it is, it ISN'T simple water vapor, or it would dissipate, NOT linger for HOURS and form a cloud cover!
tob - 2008-03-18 02:13:26
Sorry nikolai, after reading your comment, I just HAD to say that if the US government were spraying substances from the sky to make everyone in the US more complicit, more law-abiding, and better human beings in general, then they've failed. Miserably. Unless of course, the spray was intended to do the opposite. Then it's pretty much doing its thing.
fAbO - 2008-03-18 05:25:10
OOOHHHHH, COOOMEEE OOONNN, IN4M8IONMAN!!! "I can't agree that an administration that is fighting against a regime that demands total submission for a MAJOR part of its society and promotes jihad against anyone that dares to debate their ways is in any way "Big Brother" - Unless you mean a "Big Brother" that will stand up against a bully on the playground - then I agree. " FIRST OF ALL, your "LetsSaveTheWorld" Administration was the one that put those "bullies" in the government. Second, when exacty was the moment when fucking US thought theirselves as the judges of the World? Man, wake up, YOU are the bullies of this planet. YOU are the real enemy that wants to control everything, by inventing enemies everywere. YOUR government is the one that wants total submission of THE REST OF THE WORLD... dumbass...
bill - 2008-03-20 13:15:46
this sort of totalitarianism is more a product of socialist philosophy: economic & social control, political correctness, all to ensure equality. An equality of misery achieved by dragging everyone down to the level of the lowest common denominator.
Freedom=4 - 2008-03-21 05:12:58
I see a lot of Left wing, Right wing bashing. Please stop. As the US government stands right now, their electoral parties are no more than two sides of the same coin. Those who bash either wing while supporting the other are being controlled, you fight because you are being made to fight. Obama, Macain, Hillary, these are the same candy in different wrapping. I mean seriously, you think these people are gonna keep their promises, or work for he good of the US and it's people. Like the quotes up their stated, the main goal here, the end is power. These charades of evil dictators, elections, Right wing, Left wing parties, never ending wars that are fueled from both sides by the US, they're just that, charades. A distraction that works, because as people still whine and fight among themselves they become segregated, separated, divided as the system, the Party wishes. Why? Because when the moment comes, and it is clear to those who are left with their minds still unwashed by the system and it's media, and they see what is happening, no one will stand up, no one will do anything. As it stands, the party, the system, has already won.
Big Brother 9 - 2008-03-22 21:31:56
I love the big brother 9 ad over in the right column. Priceless.
Jack - 2008-03-24 21:15:17
The whole book was damned depressing. Especially how the torture and brainwashing made them betray and hate each other in the end.
lost cause - 2008-03-25 11:05:11
Scorpio get a life away from the conspiracy theories... read Jonah Goldberg's, "Liberal Fascism" and truly understand the party of Orwell... Dave
Sane Equillibrium - 2008-03-25 23:39:07
"Stop the Freemasons!" Come on, I get tired of hearing that conspiracy non-sense. There's no man in an apron controlling your strings, but your corporate owners will certainly try. p.s. the verification phrase for this comment was "be uniforms".
Solvopugnis - 2008-03-26 19:00:09
don't drink the water. Parepin.
Anonymous - 2008-03-26 23:32:25
how many fingers am I holding up?
Jez - 2008-03-27 15:25:50
Some two weeks or so ago I stumbled upon this page. I didn't read the final quote because I'd the intention of reading the book and didn't want to ruin it. I have just finished reading the book and have now read the final quote. Staggering. Brilliant literature.
Dizzley - 2008-04-01 16:35:55
Wherever people are told that the enemy is waiting to pounce, that it's better for individuals to lose their rights for the good of the homeland, that to disagree is to be unpatriotic - then is it 1984. We are becoming Winston Smiths - trying to live our quiet little lives in a world of newspeak. relieved that, at least for today, the boot won't meet our own face. Big brother is watching you and today he guards the interests of business and hollow old men. Homeland security - a phrase which sounds like honey and smells like jackboots. Was such newspeak an invention of Orwell or the White House? Orwell wrote in 1948 about 1984. How things have changed in 60 years!
Val - 2008-04-01 23:45:05
Solvopugnis- Dude, I was thinking about perapin. Apathy.
Anonymous - 2008-04-09 05:46:41
Just to say, I find it hilarious that people are criticising the author for posting the final quote. Did they not bother to read the "**Spoiler Alert!**" along with the title? Other than that, I agree that the boot on the face quote should be number one. It's truly horrific.
K@tarina - 2008-04-24 09:10:27
it clearly states SPOILER ALERT (that might mean if you havent read the book dont read that part of the website) ...duh!
Tab - 2008-04-26 11:41:33
Jesus - I love you. (I never thought I'd say that)
friendly viking - 2008-05-03 05:16:54
For the left- and right- wingers playing a game of hyperbolic tennis: calm down. Garden-variety right-wing politics (privitisation etc) are not totalitarian. Garden-variety left-wing politics (welfate etc) are not totalitarian. Totalitarianism can grow from both sides - and when it does, the terms left-wing and right-wing become obsolete; the two ideas meet in the middle and become identical - but you do not live under a dictatorship simply because you are made to give a protion of your wages to society, or because society authorises police to prevent you from causing disorder. You don't even live under fascism simply because the last election was stolen - you simply live under a flawed electoral system in need of revising (and, in the case of America, a media with strong need of regulation). Constant vigilance does not mean seeing extremes where they do not exist. Peace.
Big Brother - 2008-05-04 20:30:35
Sorry to burst your bubble, but is the 2 minute hate, not 15 minutes.
Brandon - 2008-05-29 11:34:22
George Bush is easily the best president we have had since reagan. I love America.
Elvis Einstein Beethoven. - 2008-05-31 22:31:43
"tomorrow never dies."
supersamm - 2008-06-03 20:10:47
Big brother watches me? I WATCH BIG BROTHER.
O'Brien's_daughter - 2008-06-06 08:24:28
Winston - Does Big Brother exist? O'Brien - Of course he exists. Winston - Does he exist like you or me? O'Brien - You do not exist.
ahartline - 2008-06-23 23:38:56
thank you, friendly viking. a voice of reason.
User3rror - 2008-06-27 01:55:31
JFK was the best president that I know of, and to quote him, "The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society... for we are opposed around the world, by a monolythic and ruthless conspiracy... It is a system which has conscripted was human and material rescources into the building of a thightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. ... I am asking your help with the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be. Free and Independant" Full vid here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ngJNIk8elA
wtsmn - 2008-10-05 22:55:33

When the One declared war on the capitalists, I sent money to ACORN; War is Peace. When the One called on us to shout down his critics I followed his commands blindly; Freedom is Slavery. When the One promised to meet with America’s enemies (without preconditions) I was proud of my country for the first time in my life; Ignorance is Strength. When the One came for me, it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished; I loved Big Brother. WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Anonymous - 2008-10-11 13:22:50

Chuck Norris watches Big Brother.

juwanBe - 2008-10-16 15:07:17

My favorite Orwell quote: "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

-.- - 2008-10-20 21:10:33

"Don't fucking quote the ending u silly noobs" It says *Spoiler alert* u dumb fuck.

WRG - 2008-10-23 22:36:27

Consider the modern Democrat party: Power over People, Party over Principles, Politics over Prudence.

Meg - 2008-10-27 22:59:19

In todays society the poor are kept down. They do not become doctors or lawyers. They are kept from being educated and all around the world this occures. I was thinking about the Proles and I decided that thanks to our governments there are proles and they think that they are happy with what they have; drugs, alcohol, fatty food, cheaply made movies and music which is either sexist, racist or just plain demoralising. Ever wondered why some people never go to proper resteraunts, or to watch a stage production? The government does not want these people to become educated because someone has to do the bad jobs (someone has to clean the public toilets).

Tam - 2008-11-03 17:40:41

"Hope lies in the proles."

MP - 2008-11-11 17:32:53

Okay, so some of you can curse. It adds nothing to your discussion.

Zarko - 2008-11-14 23:22:32

Everybody is equal, but some are more equal then others

D4xxL3 - 2008-11-18 21:15:36

in america, freedom is the ability to say what you want and do what you want, but always with consequences. in america, freedom is not the ability to chose for yourself. your government already does that. 1776 is 1984

indieclocks - 2008-11-19 09:43:38

modern ideologies could bring us into a world almost parallel to 1984, in the sense that Winston will not be there, but all the rest will be. government by all means is not a bad thing, just be careful and wary of the habits it develops.

Hiraghm - 2008-11-19 14:06:30

To see a newer, more accurate view of the future, go to Baen books' website and read "Fallen Angels". http://www.baen.com/library/067172052x/067172052x.htm The political war has not been between left and right for a long time. It has been between far left and near left. The Founding Fathers gave voice to 'equality', but they believed in 'individual liberty', and built the nation to embrace this as much as possible. If the government does something for you, it is only so they can tell you what to do. If they bail out your business, they want to dictate your business practices. If they give you welfare, they want to dictate your lifestyle. Everyone in today's USA has fallen into the hobby of social engineering. Whether it's a tax on tobacco or gas, or "spreading the wealth", it's playing games with peoples' lives. The graduated income tax, with its deductions and 'credits', dictates to people who they are, what work they should do, and how much money they make without being punished for their success. Group politics goes beyond just controlling behavior, but controlling what people think. Do you really think the views on race-relations, sexuality, education, what words and ideas must and must not be expressed, and culture in general just changed over the years? That desegregation, the constant, sometimes subtle indoctrination of Hollywood, the endless gov't programs that accomplished nothing beyond forcing people to change their behavior had no effect upon later generations' way of viewing the world? I'm not judging whether the changes were good or bad; I'm asserting that they were coerced. And nobody should have the right to coerce anyone else to change their way of thinking. And once again we have communists in control of Congress, and now we have a communist President. The future is here, and it is bleak, and it is forever.

Gabby - 2008-11-20 15:42:23

I read this in school last year. It was one of the only school books I actually enjoyed. As a matter of fact, it's now one of my favorite books, as depressing as it is.

El, - 2008-11-23 19:38:45

Absolute power controls absolutely

me - 2008-11-30 20:16:21

shit really, where is um..... the future relies in the proles he said that alot

mikeymo - 2008-12-09 22:27:33

Guys, guys, please...Orwell wasn't talking about 1984. In interviews about his book he said he wasn't writing about what governments will be doing in the future, but what governments have been doing for a long time. Get with it already. Stop giving yourself an excuse to sit on your ass and not do anything about it.

Bran - 2008-12-15 20:30:32

For all those who said they were shocked by the end here is an idea for thought... Maybe he didn't really love big brother, perhaps he has simply mastered double think. Again just an idea for thought...

Nickie Sekera - 2008-12-16 11:06:37

Burmese intellectuals believe that George Orwell wrote a trilogy on Burma. 1) Burmese Days 2) Animal Farm and 3) 1984. After spending a year in and on the border of Burma - I absolutely believe he could have been written of modern-day Burma.

kpope - 2008-12-17 17:27:14

“‘Tell me, what are your true feelings toward Big Brother?’ ‘I hate him’. ‘You hate him. Good. Then the time has come for you to take the last step. You must love Big Brother. It is not good enough to obey him; you must love him.’” (282)

notnotlickingtoads - 2009-01-05 08:43:25

If the spoiler ruined this book for you, read "Time of the Toad" by Dalton Trumbo. It's similar in its spooky accuracy of desribing our current state of affairs. People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck also comes to mind...

the plankton fell out - 2009-01-24 04:13:54

When tv ,prozac,shopping,and general jonesnes doesn't work give the carrot to a bunny and the stick will help them sleep.

William Wallace - 2009-01-25 14:42:28

So I go into Wal-mart and I have between 10 and 15 different kinds of toilet paper to choose from. I go into the booth to vote and I have 2 equally worthless choices for the so called leader of the free world. I think a case could be made that I have much more freedom in wiping my own arse than I do in what has become of our so called democracy.

Keith - 2009-01-30 22:37:26

Good God. The Leftist paranoia here is stunning. What is it with the web that seems to attract every far-left kook out there? Sorry folks to hurl out insults. I just get tired of hearing how Big Brotherish the Bush Admin was when people like the ones on this site, and sites just like this one, and the mainstream news media, can criticize, rip and verbally rape anything and everything associated with that administration, receive ZERO repercussions except perhaps being called "unpatriotic", and then proclaim that GW was another Hitler rising. C'mon folks. At least TRY to have some perspective. We're at war. Did the US start it? No. Were there UNINTENDED consequences for trying to help the Afghanistanis be free from Soviet domination? Absolutely. That doesn't make us evil or stupid. It just makes us regret that we bothered to help those idiots. No one can predict the future or see all possible outcomes to a situation. You can only do what seems right at the time. But... When the Democratic Party talks about the "Fairness Doctrine", which would force a certain type of speech on the news media; when the Democratic Party talks about taking care of the people and providing income redistribution out of "fairness"; when the Democratic Party in CA throws a bill around in the state legislature that would have given the state of CA the power to control the temperature level of all new homes built in the state (to control global warming); when the Democratic Party is backed up by the majority of the entertainment and news media (as opposed to being challenged by those entities); we, as a society, have a problem. And it's not coming from the Right. What the Repubs have done is little different from what Lincoln did during the Civil War or what Roosevelt did during WWII. This is nothing new and our freedoms have remained in tact. If I EVER get reason to believe that my phone's being tapped for not talking to Said in Yemen, but for talking to my mother in CO, I'll sue the gov't into the stone age. But to say that every anti-terror effort is evil and is taking us down that Orwellian path is based on a grossly misinformed outlook and/or a mind that is completely blinded by ideology. C'mon people. I think we have more to worry about from extreme leftists (communists, socialists, haters of anything traditional) and extreme rightists (Islamo-fascists in the ME). These are the entities that would rip our Constitutional freedoms from us in the name of "fairness" or "tolerance" or their idea of God. (Not to totally defend traditionalist Americans, because certainly there are nuts in that group as well. But right now that element lacks any real power. No, it's the George Soroses and the Nancy Pelosis and the NY Times and the LA Times and the Seattle Post Intelligencer and the Atlanta Journal Constitution (or whatever it's called) that we have to worry about. They are, after all, all in bed with each other in name of some brave new America where personal, hedonistic freedoms are defended in the name of tolerance, where the Big Nanny will provide everything you need (and therefore be in control of entirely too much), and anyone dissenting will be jailed or fined for hate crimes violations or at least mocked and marginalized. Nice. Yeah, the Left is really looking out for me.

marc - 2009-02-04 18:13:58

Keith...... not so smart. And good luck sueing the government.

Wolfy Smith - 2009-02-12 17:56:48

1984?....What blows me away...with all that carnage...was that they found Mohamed Atta’s passport and it had escaped from that inferno unsinged....yeah....hahahahahahaaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!!

Adam Seale - 2009-02-16 22:28:01

"He loved big brother." I don't think I've ever had my heart ripped out like I did at the end of the end of 1984. It's like an abusive romance with the human race as its victim.

I like books. - 2009-02-24 16:27:03

Keith, what you wrote is irrelevant to 1984 the book and to most of the comments posted here. I suggest you stop criticizing "far-left kooks" and do something useful with your life and contribute to society rather than complaining about it. Or you can rant your silly beliefs on some blog not on a book commentary. Big Brother, you're a complete idiot for considering the bible a work of non-fiction. Even if you do believe in God, the bible is far from "the word of God". It essentially is a collection of folktales that were handed down through oral tradition until they were actually written down and published as the bible officially during the middle ages- which accurred 1000 years AFTER the alleged birth of Jesus. May I remind you that folktales are a genre of FICTION. And has anyone here complained about marijuana not being legalized? I don't think so. If you're not going to talk about the book or anything related to it then leave. Everyone else, liberals aren't communists and conservatives aren't totalitarianists so please get your concepts right before you say anything. Also George Orwell hated both communists and capitalists. He considered himself in between the two. I guess you can compare his beliefs to those that the economic system of Scandinavian countries such as Norway are founded on. ANYWAYS, 1984 is one of my favorite books of all time. I think the quotes picked out here are great. But I'm a little disappointed they didn't include 2+2=5.

Terry - 2009-02-26 23:24:13

Ridicule Scorpio? Liberals don't really have a party line. There is too much diversity among us. On the other hand, Republicans, the far right and the neo cons have a remarkable ability to get into lock step and repetitive behavior. Joe the plumber--joe the plumber-----William Ayers---William Ayers----Reverend Wright---Reverend Wright Then go on back-- to the flip flopper--- flip flopper. As a matter of fact, you are simply spouting your party line when you speak of a party. However, what else could one expect from a member of a party whose chief spokes people are the likes of Rush, Anne Coulter,Mike Savage and Hannity. Why shoot a personal barb instead of a reasoned response?

Bryan Ekers (yeah, my real name) - 2009-02-27 15:16:38

There's a passage at the end of chapter 6 that always stayed with me: "He pressed his fingers against his eyelids again. He had written it down at last, but it made no difference. The therapy had not worked. The urge to shout filthy words at the top of his voice was as strong as ever." Even the outlet of writing in his diary doesn't help. Winston's life is so stifled that he's completely helpless.

Middle Brother - 2009-03-04 01:29:12

Big Brother was just the beginning.

c4rson - 2009-03-05 12:15:28

1984 themed song... Give it a listen... It's free!!! http://c4rson.0fees.net/index.php/5th-quarter-/59-comejointheparty

Sky - 2009-03-05 21:39:09

I like 1984, read it like 2 times now,seems to me that 184 and Brave New World are similar in their own way.

Willem B - 2009-03-09 15:35:31

"We are the dead"... "You are the dead" said the iron voice behind them.. incredibly scary scene "Those who control the past control the future. Those who control the present control the past." Surprised this one isnt on there, since it seems to allude to the ending of the book from the start.. the Party will never die.. Amazing book, better than the Bible, I'd say (but who would listen to an atheist like me anyways?)

sarra - 2009-03-21 06:17:11

keith!The amount of propaganda that you have been swallowing is stunning!!Seriously, do you really buy into bush’s bullshit about “trying to help Afghanistan”?? Ok let’s put it in plain English; it’s about dominance and it has absolutely no relation with liberation. The new Afghanistan looks like the old one, the US puppet out there is keeping the same state of chaos …the promise of freedom and democracy is just an illusion, well you should have one in order to spread it all over the world!!!When your country is ruled by corporations you should at least have the decency to stop preaching democracy! And by the way the islamo-fascism that you were talking about is just another lie; it’s just a term created to dehumanize Muslims, to make them look devilish...Actually, there is nothing in any part of the Muslim world that resembles the corporate fascist states of the west! There are dictatorships, monarchies, and military-run states but none fits in the standard definition of fascism! And as Chomsky once said if you don’t want terror stop participating in its creation! And yes you did start the war!!And don’t tell me that America was also giving a helping hand by waging a war against Iraq! A whole civilization has been destroyed...Libraries...Museums… if destruction is the only way for helping people, well don’t do it!!Wake up Americans!!It’s all about petrol, dominance, power…and” the idiots” you were talking about are human beings!! It’s like reading a colonial novel championing the superiority of the west...the white man’s burden, the civilized man who is trying so hard to spread civilization to savages and idiots!!!OMG

T. Yamamoto - 2009-03-21 22:36:26

Nikolai you want to know what those "Chemtrails" are? When a plane is getting ready to land they often discharge some of their fuel in order to be at a better weight during landing. When the Fuel is pumped out it mixes with air on it's way out and creates a trail behind the plane, and that's kids is what a Chemtrail is. The reason these trails are so long and thin is because they dump the fuel very slowly, you can easily look up on Youtube a video of a fighter jet dumping fuel very quickly and see how it makes a giant and short cloud behind the plane, and video of one doing it slowly like is common and it makes a thin long cloud. But good try not go buy more tinfoil for your little hat. For people complaining about the ending being ruined it you haven't read this book by the time you where 12 you have a problem, and might need a library card. If you are younger than that your parents need to spend more time monitoring your Internet usage. For the people who claim Orwell was a man of the left it is true, however he grew up in a time where the ascendency of the left and it's utopian ideology was ascendent, it was considered the future and whatnot. If he was alive now do you think he would still be a man of the left? Especially considering some of the things he did support would be considered traditional liberal or conservative today. I'm not saying he would be a Republican but don't you think that he may have changed his outlook over the years especially considering the abject failure of many of the lefts policies or at least abuses of the Socialism he supported?

O'Brien - 2009-03-28 00:06:34

Does Big Brother exist? Of course he exists. Does he exist like you and me? You do not exist.

Raw - 2009-04-08 15:39:18

"We control life, Winston, at all its levels. You are imagining that there is something called human nature which will be outraged by what we do and will turn against us. But we create human nature, Men are infinately malleable." Kind of sums it up, destroys all hope...really depressing!!

patriot7 - 2009-04-22 21:44:36

The fear caused by the liberal left creates the atmosphere that leads to failed policies. Crisis for crisis' sake is the mantra over and over again. "...for the children", "How will we pay for this war?", "Build infrastructure", etc. are all party-speak for "We want your money", "We are pacifists!", and "Temporary jobs mean more Democrat votes". Some of you may have hope for President BarHO but, get real, he ain't the Messiah most of you so vigorously deny existed anyway. May the lack of faith, honor, and integrity haunt you all! Oh, by the way, can some of you liberals take in those Gitmo detainees because no other people, place, or country will take the chance on receiving them. Ha!

stardazz;le92 - 2009-05-14 11:16:24

Very depressing indeed....

aslıhan - 2009-05-24 06:39:51

doublethink

Feathers - 2009-06-01 12:49:50

This book was such a jolt to my soul when I read it. Really his best work, in my opinion. And for all of you complaining that people are idiots for enjoying and quoting a fiction novel, shove it up your asses. There's nothing wrong with feeling inspired, and bigots like you are what make the range of free thinking in this world narrower and narrower.

noname117 - 2009-06-05 02:55:09

wow great book i really enjoyed it but seriously all these other comments like " wake up ur all sheep part of the cattle" or " ha i think i am sophisticated and a badass because i calmly say ... we already live in this negative utopia u guys are just blind" wow this government might be ha "corrupt" but its not like third world countries that have freaking ghetto lifestyles or give women no rights. sure america has its problems but the way half u guys talk about it sounds like the retards way back ago who would call people witches and they would die for it just like the fourties where if u were called a commie u would be hated... u guys are like the ayn rand cult take it easy sure orwell's a great writer but thats like say terminator or the matrix will come true...plus the majority of the army is from texas and take it from some one who lives their they would not be brainwashed they are to texan and well at least some racist and ignorant its not gonna happen...so dont piss ur pants and go ranting on ..about..us sheeps and how we are poor souls who are blind and cannot see the lies psshhhhhhh yeah right half america is to lazy to "follow the communist sheperd that will lead us sheep" lolololol lmao rofl remember join the resistance dont one of the sheep ....this is john connor what the hell am i saying

Vince - 2009-06-05 19:09:27

Big Brother is totally here already, illegal phone taps, and increased surveillance. I think we nee the homeland security department to protect us against our own government. This is a really great top ten list about one of my favorite books. Anyone can post their own list to our site http://www.toptentopten.com/. The coolest feature is you can let other people vote on the rankings of your list.

The Party - 2009-06-08 19:15:52

An awesome book. Good quotes minus the last one-I was really hoping he would create his own distopia ala Mosquito Coast... As far as the "we are all controlled" discussion, travel outside of the US if you want to see some real problems ie Africa. Yeah, the US isn't perfect, but it's one place where you enjoy a decent standard of living as a welfare receipient and have the opportunity to be very successful if you actually try. If you don't believe it, look at all the first generation immigrants that make great lives for themselves. Stop being a lazy ass blaming others and work hard. You'll succeed or at least experience something "Big Brother" doesn't want you to.

Anonymous - 2009-06-15 21:45:06

"jim johnson - 2008-03-13 23:21:55 Orwell nailed life under Islam." Are you kidding me? Ha. Wow you're very stupid. Islam is about peace. The media shows you the fanatic side. I'm as white as they get and even I can tell. You must be a redneck.

keith1963 - 2009-06-30 19:32:43

Orwell never could have imagined a free society as pathetically stupid as ours is today. Obama is big brother, tells fools so, and they're orgasmic about it! That's what 30 years of liberal public education will get you. A society educated so dumb they know and care more about American Idol than American history.

Julie - 2009-07-09 19:01:57

im not sure what this book is about, never read it, but basing it on the quotes, is it a book about bashing a communist party?? if so, those are the most ridiculous IGNORANT quotes I've ever seen. only someone who havent lived through that could say that....

Gordon - 2009-07-14 16:20:17

"We are the dead", he said. "We are the dead", echoed Julia dutifully. "You are the dead", said an iron voice behind them. Also, "While we're on the subject, here comes a candle to light you to bed, here comes a chopper to cut off your head".

King of proles - 2009-07-24 23:11:42

American policy is most certainly corrupt, as it always has been. Look at the world though, is there anywhere on earth where life is progressing? Through harmonious balance and reward between the people and each other and their governers? Global warming is a rampant monster. I don't think it was mentioned once in this forum. Revolution is not impossible; it is just unlikely. Such is the concept of big brother. Remember, we're not quite a communist society yet. Does anyone remember studying the great depression? Money isn't disappearing, its getting tucked away. For anyone who takes in history and government and 1984 I would recommend reading, or at least trying to read Romance of the Three Kingdoms. There is a free online translation at www.threekingdoms.com. The book is 120 chapters. It is not likely you will finish it. However, i can't think of another book besides these two that has actually "kept me reading". It is the complete opposite of the spectrum of 1984, and it is based off of true events. Around 180-260 A.D. in china. For all the fiction bashers. It is regarded as about 30% fiction. It is based on a period of feudalism, and the division between the three classes is quite prominent. Something 1984 was keen on. Also, though it is a book about the end of a dynasty and the beginning of another, it is also about war. Civil war, but nonetheless, between three sides. War decades long, making an ally to fight another, then attacking the former ally, etc. A stalemate, but a concept very prominent in 1984. Anyone who read it surely knows what i'm talking about. Halfway through the book or so the enemy in the three sided war becomes the ally and the ally becomes the enemy. I never met george orwell. But i would bet 10 US monetary units that george orwell read romance of the three kingdoms.

Rob - 2009-07-28 10:51:40

I love the Neo-Cons and the Liberal comments. Both parties have you brainwashed and you are fighting yourselves! 1984 is very much alive and an instruction manual that is being followed and Neo-cons and Liberals are falling for it, hook, line and sinker. Bush destroyed the Constitution with DHS, Obama is mergine G.E. with the Government, taking over Car companies, making you slaves to the Government for jobs, healthcare, food, etc yet each party can only see what the "Other" party is doing "wrong." Even though they are breaking the same freedoms you idiots argue about but it's OK if it's YOUR party. It's working well, soon you won't be able to tell one party from another and by then, when you idiots wake up, it will be too late. Bush trashed the Constitution, Obama is just lighting it on fire to make sure it never comes back and get's in the way of his plans for power (33 Czars that report directly to him...the fact that he calls them "Czars"!!!! this is right out of 1984 and you idiots are eating it up like the serfs you are). For you libs, repeat after me: Obama is God Bush was Wrong Government is Great (and will solve all of our problems, we should lick their hand) For you neo-cons repeat after me: God wants us to go to war Obama is Satan Government is Great (when we force beliefs on other people that we agree with)

Omnicron - 2009-08-03 14:47:41

Born of a broken man But not a broken man Born of a broken man Never a broken man

It's happening now - 2009-08-05 00:24:15

Why are you guys putting GoDaddy and Digg in the same conversation as 1984 when 1984 is happening right now? Don't think so? Read the media darling's health reform bill where it gives an email address for people to report (to Obama's government) anyone who talks sh*t about the Health Care Reform bill. History repeats itself (see Hitler Youth) and Orwell absolutely pegged the world as it is today. Or are the powers that be just using 1984 as a social blueprint for "Big Brother" government? Oh, "Our government wouldn't do that to UUUUUS..." So say people who couldn't see evil in government if (when) it slaps them in the face. Read 1984 and see what points are already in place.

grenny - 2009-08-06 00:05:56

and then boccers put up the biggest tent and we were all like OMG THATS DISCUSTING"

tmar672 - 2009-08-07 18:01:51

Scorpio - 2008-03-12 23:09:26 Many of the quotes are frightfully remenisent of current neo-con behavior and philosophy. If they manage to steal another "election", we may not be able to turn the tide of their quest for totalitarianism. Really? It seems to me that Obama and the progressive way is following the way of "Big Brother" more than any "neo-con" ever has. Scorpio do you even know what "neo" even means. You my friend are an idiot.

Anne Beeche - 2009-08-08 03:07:27

The most depressing and horrifying book I have ever read. Seriously, I cried when I read this. This was the first time I was ever angry at an author for the way he ended the book. And I love it all the same.

paige_paige - 2009-08-08 18:21:56

this book seems really boring!

Mikey - 2009-08-11 19:53:24

How ironic that so many here can attribute “Big Brother” tactics to the alleged “Right”, while my first inclinations were of the “Politically Correct” censorships and the Progressives “Thought Police”, not many can argue that the Left is defiantly holding the “Biggest Brother” crown.

atlas tugged - 2009-08-23 14:12:50

1984 is about freedom! but freedom in NOT slavery take away one or a few of big brothers controls: telescreen, food rations, 2 minutes hate, cigarette ration, etc... winston would still not be happy--he requires total freedom, not just a little freedom (to sneak a diary, to walk his own route home from work) sure the USA is damn nice, but we're not really free; some of us know this and are bothered today as winston is in the book sure, we probably don't have tought police (yet) nor the terrible conditions of '3rd world' countries BUT does that make it ok to chip away at the ideal--FREEDOM those of us that this book tears apart, love freedom, need freedom! freedom to work or not, freedom to produce for ourselves not others, freedom to defend ourselves, freedom to earn health care (a service provided by another free individual), freedom to smoke/eat/drink, freedom to love another of our choice trust no government, tolerate the courts to protect our rights and the armed forces to stop terrorists/invaders the rest, we should do ourselves of course, our government has its hands in everthing, so as said above many times, bb is already here-- but we can still fight!? if you don't fight, if you trust the government, if you are the government, YOU ALREADY LOVE BB or you are a prole

dumbass - 2009-08-29 03:15:50

"Big Thanks - 2008-03-13 03:20:00 The further I read, the more I wanted to read the book. But the last quote made me reconsider. Thanks for the spoiler, fuckface." whats up your ass? your own fault you read the quotes, idiot.

shamoo - 2009-09-07 20:42:15

i hate this book....

freedom is a myth - 2009-09-09 04:27:20

we are living in 1984! every thing we do is under government scrutiny. we live day by day and these things don't concern us. therefore, we overlook it. have you ever happened to notice that there is a Starbucks on ever corner. you don't have to even buy a drink and you can still sit there and enjoy its AC and soothing music. my point is, where do people usually meet to talk? Starbucks. i know it has cameras, which violates our privacy. also, i dont doubt for hidden microphones.

Rainfeather - 2009-09-16 00:11:43

Next time, could you please include the page numbers of the quotations? Thanks. Nice selection of quotes by the way.:)

Maow - 2009-09-19 02:25:35

The most painful parts of the book for me were... "Winston had learned early on to sit still, for when he moved too much the telescreens on the walls screamed at him." I'm sorry if that's misquoted, I don't have the book. For some reason, that just hit the hardest spot for me... The second was the: "We are the dead." "We are the dead." "You are the dead."

a.k.a. Freeper 'airborne' - 2009-09-19 13:57:16

Funny how the people ripping Bush are silent while 0bama picks up where Bush left off and makes G. W. look like an amatuer! The 0bama Administration has placed more Communists, socialists, anarchists and elitists into positions of authority (all with the passive permission of both Dems and Pubs) than both Bushes, Clinton Carter, Ford and Nixon combined! Orwell was dead on in his prediction. He was just 25 years early! Enjoy 'Big Brother' ! Well, at least you will until they come for you!

houston texans - 2009-10-03 23:48:17

maybe peace isnt being free from totalataria gov. but supporting them all to the same extent so none can take over. face it you wont be able to get rid of them completly. oh and the bible was written approx 60-80 years after jesus was born not 100.

Hemostat - 2009-10-06 20:53:44

Soon Big Brother's doctors will be inoculating our children, X-raying our chests, checking our prostates, operating on our hearts, knees ... and checking our voting records ...

Guest on earth - 2009-10-13 00:10:00

Ha, it's hilarious to read the quotes about the "neo-cons" and Bush. Now he is gone and replaced with worse, much worse. Now hope means despair, choice means what they give you, freedom means accepting the leader without exception, Obama, Obama, Obama!

Jesus - 2009-10-13 19:01:44

All you connies, neo-connies and libertarians are funny. I hope you guys know Orwell was a democratic socialist.

Mother Nature - 2009-10-17 06:53:34

Amazing comments re: 1984. I read it 50+ years ago and couldn't believe America could fall into that rat trap. I lived in Berlin before the wall and laughed at Radio Moscow. Now I cry as Pravda West preaches the party line: George Orwell's amazing (and scary) novel 1984, people used newspeak and doublethink. It was soon after that the term doublespeak started being used to describe the words of politicians who were trying to sound like they were saying something without really having said anything tangible they could be pinned down on. More recently, doublespeak has been increasingly used as a clever way to cover up lies. www.grinningplanet.com/2004/10-19/environmental-doublespeak-ethics-article.htm

Terrified Tom - 2009-10-21 05:03:40

Those people on the left today, who buy into barry osama's rhetoric that the government must step in, that people who make big salaries are somehow undeserving and evil and that business needs to be monitored so their profits are not too high... wake up, read this book... please!!

M Mabeuf - 2009-11-02 22:22:31

Interesting comments. If you want to see some creations worthy of Orwellian triumph take a look at iWatchLA (http://lapdonline.org/iwatchla), which basically encourages you to spy on your neighbors in the name of preventing terrorism. The growing amount of people that exist solely on the internet (iPhone, Twitter, Facebook), coupled with GPS and integrated everything... we live in fun times.

falvz - 2009-11-06 08:37:38

rawrrr!!!!

Loves1984 - 2009-11-12 23:40:07

This books is so... intriguing. I love the ending, it's realistic, as compared to lame fantasy, dragon-filled books. I would actually call this a BOOK. It's amazing. Also, the quotes were perfect.

Sez Me - 2009-11-16 03:30:50

Read over these comments again. Do you see it? Left vs Right. Very few noticed that this is all distraction, red herrings designed to keep us "choosing a side" and supporting it. The real problem is not one of "which" ideology is "correct". The real problem is that government has far, far too much power. The real problem is that the 'shape' of government is a pyramid and we are governed "from the top down" which is exactly the opposite of a democracy. Both the Lib/left and the Con/right support this upside-down form of government. They each want to be at the apex. They'll tell you anything to get you to support their bid for power. And you do. You buy into one or the other's "we're-right - they're wrong" propaganda. You actually go out and vote for one or the other of them. You validate their crooked system and dominance over you. Can you say "Baa, baa, baa........."!

insight911 - 2009-11-20 19:10:10

The Council would strip away the final thing that could not be abstracted by their carefully crafted deceit…human dignity. A mans dignity, as we all well know, can never be taken but rather, must be willingly surrendered by the individual. That is why illusions that are created in fear are used so frequently among the powerful; it cultivates an atmosphere where people willingly give up what is only truly theirs to give. Such people relinquish dignity because they think that it is an external state of condition, rather than an internal state of being. Once people lack a basic dignity of self, they become easily controlled. Folks, that would be from a story that I am currently writing. Either, society wakes up from its forgetting of "social ethics" or we continue to cling on to the "virtues of selfishness" and get swallowed whole by the insatiable meat machine of flesh. If we choose the latter, I can assure you that there will be no bottom to the pit of despair and human suffering.

Anon - 2009-11-25 04:32:53

i think the part when the guy says they could slit he throat of his children and wife in front of him instead of hurt him is the worst!

David - 2009-11-26 18:49:15

NOO!! I read the spoiler =[ =[ =[.

Stefan - 2009-12-05 08:55:30

I agree with Sez Me

someone whom u dnt need to knw - 2009-12-10 21:22:54

"If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say this or that even, it never happened—that, surely, was more terrifying than mere torture and death." "And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." “The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth.”

Hope - 2009-12-11 17:49:18

End Copenhagen. The end is near.

Thomas - 2009-12-24 17:33:44

You may all read and question what Orwell says, but remember two things. "Submission is the will to resist in thought; obedience in action of another." "Defy what the machine have become to your every waking breath, so as long you wake up every morning to build it."

Bob - 2009-12-29 20:42:01

Big Brother is in our institutions. It is in our businesses when those CEOs decide that business is for their profit only, not for the benefit of the stakeholders (employees, investors, and customers). It is in our government every time we create another bureaucracy that is determined to expand and gather more power instead of solving a problem. It is in our religious institutions every time when believers use their religious scripture to divide people into the "blessed" and "heathen". Big Brother is the embodiment of all of this.

Allison - 2010-01-24 00:00:57

"the best books, he perceived, are those that tell you what you know already" (orwell 200) we truly are the dead, and this is 1984

Smee - 2010-01-26 20:53:51

The Bible is not fiction. It's like a biography-ish colection of writings from holy persons.

unknown 57 - 2010-02-03 16:39:18

grow some balls you fucking pussies! BITCHES!

Hmmm - 2010-02-10 17:07:45

The Bible is not fiction. It's like a biography-ish colection of writings from holy persons. How can you argue against the fact that the bible has been translated (so there will be some mistakes) who knows how many times. And then you have Constantine& company who basically rewrote the bible...How can it claim any connection with truth?

hidingathome - 2010-02-16 15:32:44

The book tells truth. Big brother can't see all yet....but...When we are reduced to passing around hand printed notes to spread ideas and organize resistance to try to win back our right to speak, to petition the gov't for redress of our grievances, you will regret letting the United Nations TAKE AWAY net neutrality, to deny you access to sites that disagree with the world gov't, the U.S. gov't, etc. When the surveillance grid is complete enough to observe you at all times, NO TIME will be yours to use to fight. All actions against those who rule can be back-tracked to your door, and they'll come for you. I believe our only hope is if there is a God, and the bible tells truth about the "Final battle". The right to bear arms is the right to defend yourself against ALL who would harm you, including your own gov't and it's armed forces, public and secret. We WILL BE THE LAST BASTION.

The only EY - 2010-03-03 15:48:38

Holy fuck you are all duschebags. I'm only here for quotes for a book report on Orwell. But Seriously? The United States is a big brother system? Are you out of your fucking minds? You fucking rejects haven't gotten busted for all this stupid blogshit because the government isn't watching you or trying to control you. That's why Mad TV and SNL can make fun of the president if they want, and i can say bush and obama are fags. And as for the fucking faithless cocksucking piece of horse shit that referred to quoting the bible as stupid, the only reason it bothers you is because you're too damn scared to truly believe in something. You can't believe America's government is good and working, you can't believe in a high power, and i bet you cant believe your going to be anything important to anybody. But at least on the last subject you'd be right for once. Fuck you faggots, get a life and stop fucking blogging.

Justin - 2010-03-04 21:45:20

Where's the "I sold you and you sold me" quote in the end after he see's Julia in the park? that was pretty depressing.

Joe - 2010-03-22 15:22:36

The "Progressive" party has just passed National Healthcare. Soon, we will all learn to love Big Brother. It is happening right before our eyes. But, why should we care? We just turn the channel and lose ourselves in some scripted fantasy on TV and forget about it. In 30 minutes the pain is gone. We are so easily mesmerized and reprogrammed. We had a Constitutional Republic, once, that limited government, but we just misplaced it somehow, somewhere along the way. Winston never had a chance to go to the polls and stop the madness at the ballot box. If you are smart, and if you have any ambition, any desire for liberty and the pursuit of happiness, vote down these Progressives that pretend to love you every chance you get. Just like in "1984", the Progressives are hellbent on achieving power and domination of the individual. They are drunk on power and arrogant beyond belief. But then again, why fight it for 40 years like Winston did? Resistance is futile? Big Brother knows what is best for you. Big Brother provides for you. He gives you healthcare, and 'free' services. Maybe we should just give in now and start loving Big Brother and forget this 1776 pipedream about Liberty and Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness? Naw. Not me. I'm looking forward to every Election Day. I'm going to fight them to the last! Tell the band to play the "1812 Overture" and let the "War of 2012" begin. Throw all these Progressive Marxists out!

Jay Loc - 2010-04-01 11:29:08

Hands down, most depressing and culminating line: "I betrayed you"

TIm - 2010-04-15 16:43:50

I have a really bad habit of reading the last page of any novel before reading the actually book because I like guessing what will happen and see if it comes true. In the case with this novel, I wish I hadn't done that... This book is definately my favorite novel in my highschool career.

nico siete - 2010-04-17 16:14:02

If you watch the news all we ever speak of is the latest war against____________(insert demon here)How the politicians are battling over_________(insert latest have to legislation here)We americans are proles. High class proles mind you ,but proles just the same. Do you think the US could succeed in taking all freedoms at once? no way we are to "smart" to fall for that. First you allow us to get used to the privileges we have. Next you allow the corporations to slowly whittle away our earning/spending power. we become slaves to money first then we are hooked to the masters for our survival. then send our jobs away so we HAVE to depend on government cheese.and big brother government steps in to save us. Once we believe in there sencerity we realize the wars are ALL necessary. Big brother is doing this to protect us. Soon government controls all,they squash corporations or buy them ie:GM,Banks. then we they have all of us in check they start taking away services 1 by 1.Many cities across america have already started cutting services,but not fees.we arent in oceania yet but we have set sail on the journey there!

xoxo - 2010-05-03 16:45:26

does anyone know who said these quotes in the book? --"I bet that picture's got bugs behind it. I'll take it down and give it a good cleaning some day." AND --"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two makes four. If that is granted, all else follows.

FRANK THE TANK SIDARTAK - 2010-05-03 17:24:11

This book was absolutely fucking amazing as fuck... The in depth coverage of this novel by Orwell was outstanding to say the least. There is not a word yet invented to say how mind boggling it was... My english teacher had me suspended for reading this book as my isu book and when i got back i broke his jaw for that. He insulted on of the greatest books ever written and did not even think of what it was i was trying to get across. I hope everyone enjoyed this masterpiece as much as i did!!!

Anonymous - 2010-05-04 20:52:43

WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH I LOVE BIG BROTHER

Talha Pasha - 2010-05-08 14:37:51

Forget depressing. Best quote in the book hands-down: "Only the disciplined mind can see reality. You believe reality is something objective, external. Existing in its’ own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind and nowhere else."

Anon- - 2010-05-12 20:38:45

"jim johnson - 2008-03-13 23:21:55 Orwell nailed life under Islam." I agree with you Jim, but don't let your telly cloud your vision. Think about the Crusades and the persecution of Native Americans... there are bad things we just don't hear alot about. For the most part we know only half truths we cannot verify just like in 1984. How much better is our sense of history? Like literature, in life there are gradients to everything. Just don't bash a religion till it's ok to persecute, that's not what Orwell was trying to say. I don't live under Islamic rule, do you?

Anonymous - 2010-05-20 22:00:17

2+2=5

sam - 2010-05-26 10:10:13

the fucking quote says spoiler alert if you didn't want it spoiled then fucking you shouldnt have read past that.

BuddyS - 2010-06-03 14:07:50

Yes, George Orwell was a big-time Socialist, and like most Progressives & Leftists, they mistakenly project their own pathological neuroses on Republicans & Conservatives. Little did Orwell realize his Totalitarian dystopia would arise from the Left, not the Right. An excellent tutorial on the Forms of Govt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DioQooFIcgE

James - 2010-06-17 05:51:26

To BuddyS It appears that you are implying that the Democrats are or will be the cause of totalitarianism. However, in the video you suggested, the Democrats AND the Republicans sit on the left. Where the extreme left is total gvt. such as fascism and communism and the extreme right is anarchy.

David Olds - 2010-06-21 17:18:27

Hedieh Mirahmadi, a Muslim community organizer based in Washington, D.C., fears that political correctness has got the better of the Obama administration, to the point where it seems to be almost dissecting radical Islamism out of existence.

Andy Millea - 2010-06-21 17:40:11

Brilliant, love the way you illustrate each quote with the cover of different editions, some of those old ones are gorgeous.

sarah - 2010-07-14 17:01:32

"If you are a man, Winston, you are the last man. YOur kind is extinct; we are the inheritors. Do you understand that you are alone? You are outside history,you are non-existent. And do you consider yourself superior to us, with our lies and our cruelty?" "Yes, I consider myself superior" I like this one. But i guess this doesn't qualify for a depressing quote... it was when the last man on earth was still alive

Tim Ramsay - 2010-07-20 01:18:40

I hate purity. I hate goodness. I don’t want virtue to exists anywhere. I want everyone corrupt. 37:30.

Reading Comprehension - 2010-08-16 15:38:37

Umm... why is it that so many are capable of whining about a "spoiler," and obviously capable of READING the spoiler... But are not capable of CEASING to read when they see, written in huge, obvious letters, "SPOILER ALERT?" 1984 indeed.

WGAF - 2010-09-11 16:51:37

Have you ever heard of "Invisible Empire? or "New World Order"?

stvjnsD - 2010-09-13 18:58:05

My favorite "1984" movie is the great adaptation by Terry Gilliam, co-written with Tom Stoppard, one of the greatest films ever made, called "BRAZIL" (1985). It is a genius revisioning of Orwell's classic. My least favorite "1984" movie is the one we are living in right now.

donsilbers - 2010-09-23 00:00:53

How do these sound: Holy Brother, Big Mullah, Almighty Father, Uncle Allah.

1948 - 2010-10-02 02:51:28

Top 10 most depressing quotes? The whole book is one of the most depressing things I've ever read

chan - 2010-10-22 11:38:43

"jim johnson - Orwell nailed life under Islam" NOT. He nailed life opposite of islam. which is why the US government is trying so hard to destroy it.

Chris Zimny - 2010-11-14 10:39:06

"Chuck Norris watches Big Brother" I LOL'd like, hard.

Annonymous - 2010-11-22 11:55:42

I think I died a little inside at the ending. Despite knowing it wouldn't happen, some part of me deep down had hoped Winston would have retained his strength through to the end, to die a free man. Sadly, what actually happenend in the book, is what would probably happen if this scenario were real. A haunting truth if there ever was one. Some countries are on the path to a government like that, the path can be changed, and despite Orwell's ideas that the world they lived in would never change, I don't believe a world like that could last forever. Still it's haunting to think, that everything he portrayed in that novel, is entirely within the realm of possible, and a potential setting for the future of some countries. Many people here keep saying The United States is on that path, but I don't think they realize that there are far more regulated and controlled countries out there, that will fall to that style goverment first, Australia, France and so on. Even so it's still quite conceivable that some day down the line, it could happen even here America.

LordConto - 2010-11-24 13:46:05

Read the book and liked it very much. But anyhow I wonder what would you people say to O'Brien, if you could debate with him in his world, but without the danger of being tortured by him. I very much dislike to say this but, how the hell could one object his arguments?

Sam - 2010-11-24 15:24:11

It would be difficult to argue with O'brian. How could you argue against doublethink? It basically makes logic and reasoning void and whatever they want to believe right, at least in their own mind it does. I think it would be very poetic to subject him to what he did to Winston, and try to change his mind on the matter in the manner as done to all those like Winston.

LordConto - 2010-12-02 14:33:59

Well but if you just imagine the situation- You meet O'Brien in his office, his guards and servants are somehow magically locked out so he cannot punish you for "wrong" answer with electroshock. Still the debate happens in the Orwell's world so you cannot use argumentate with stuff like the majority's view on the subject or with the Occam's razor derived from that. Anyhow, I found it very depressive that I couldn't think of any way to object him.

Ai841 - 2010-12-05 15:03:48

Everyone who thinks that the USA is like 1984, whether from the left or right, would be dead right now if the USA was actually like 1984, simply for expressing that opinion. So stop bitching.

Doug Nusbaum - 2010-12-06 19:16:54

Google Orwell's boot --- I am about #4 Factotum666 I lay out the hypothesis that Orwell was right.

Vicky Les - 2011-01-12 04:09:15

" The price of Liberty is eternal Vigilance ". An old quote which comes from who knows where.

Brad - 2011-01-15 14:07:32

The corruption of knowledge is a central theme in 1984, and its corruption is the true enemy. When we buy into illusionary belief systems that don't require rational and logic, and don't continually questions its principles and dogma as understanding evolves, we can be led to believe in anything. When 2+2=5, then those that hold power no longer need to use logic and truth to support their actions. All becomes corrupted. Obviously our religions are the most to blame, but when we don't hold our governments accountable, and don't require them to be truthful, power becomes corrupted. This need not be a left / right debate. It is just that in the USA, since the 1980s, the right has been more aggressive in its use of intentional truth distortion for power. The Bush administration happened to be on the right side of the political spectrum, but more than that, it corrupted knowledge for its own purposes. Obama is the most trustworthy and rational president in many moons, so you are lucky to have him. 1984 is not about the evil of being forced to pay taxes or pay for health care. Taxes are for roads and health care is to help out the disadvantaged and redistribute wealth, and you are specifically being told that. The world is continually becoming more intricate, sophisticated, and interconnected, and so is society. There is no going backwards. The idea that the USA is a place where only your individual freedoms matter and you are the king of your own castle has long past. So you pay your taxes and help your neighbour a little bit, but you get to vote and express your opinion and you get immense individual freedoms. You give a very little bit of freedom up (paying taxes) in exchange for the economic leverage provided by this intricate system, of which the citizens of the USA benefit from the most. That has nothing to do with the corruption of knowledge and power. Fight for the continual search for knowledge, and revolt against illusion and the mystics, and demand the truth from your government, and the rest will sort itself out.

WINK - 2011-02-17 16:49:50

1984 is a mid 20th Century preview of the USA, and eventually the world, if the Obama-nistas are re-elected in 2012 ! Their attempt at a power grab to end capitalism in this nation, and replace it with an Orwellian society where we will be saying "Hail Big Brother Barack," and "Hail Big Sister Michele," is totally unacceptable, unless of course you want this nation and the world eventually ruled by yhe Islamic Jihadest Extremists and their Sharia law !!!

awesomenesssss - 2011-02-18 11:57:42

Their embrace had been a battle, the climax a victory. It was a blow struck against the Party. It was a political act. ;D

Runrabbitrun - 2011-03-31 05:24:07

The world of 1984 isn't so disimiliar to our own but it's not because of the government. the government exists as a body, its not persecuting civiliians and the majority of its actions that have major impacts are decided upoun by looking at popular opinion and as an attempt to garnish popluarity. The major characteristic of this particular totalinarian stateis that it practices often unnessacry actions which degrade the lif stlye of it's occupant. The idea being that actions are perepated purely out of the act to practice power. "power for the object of power" A 1984 state can never be realised also because if you actually read the novel, the state came into being because of a wide spread societal collapse. The dystopian setting is what allows oceania to become the dominating state it is. So if there does happen to be some kind of nuclear fallout or the oil pricves end up soemhow causing world wide rebellion, then yeah maybe either start hunting down people lookign like big brother or join the cause and hope for a seat near the top

LordConto - 2011-06-18 15:40:48

But however, in one thing Orwell was wrong. He somehow claimed the political system of 1984 was indestructible and would last for ever. It wouldn't. Cause as he said that if the people were to become to educated, they would be impossible to govern and they would realise, they don't need their government. In 1984 system something unique would happen as soon as only the members of party that could only speak newspeak would still be living. The party only controlled the mobs by eliminating those who seemed to have potential to organise people into revolting and haven't planed to force them newspeak. But once only the party would speak newspeak, that would even ensure not all the brain centres would fully develop. So in time it would happen not that the people would become to intelligent, but the government would become to stupid to govern. After all, how could they recognise those spreading antiparty propaganda if they don't speak their language and are stupid. They could learn a few words of the oldspeak and consider them crimethoughts without understanding them, but if the mob started using codewords for them, they would be just screwed. How could they recognise the intelligent people pretended to be ignorant but secretly remained active? The revolt would inevitably be organised and the party would be to unable to prevent, even less stop it.

O'Brien - 2011-07-25 10:59:57
How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? Winston: 4.5. O'Brien: WHAT THE FUCK BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Orwell Fan - 2011-08-06 07:51:08
For greater insight into what 1984 is about read Orwell's essay "Notes on Nationalism" and "Homage to Catalonia". Brad's comment was the one that really grasped what the book is about: it is about willingly deceiving ourselves so that if the party demands that 2+2=5 we really, truly believe it. It is also about the evils of the "religious" mindset. In order to achieve eternal life you must completely sink your identity into that of the collective, so that you live through them. The christian ideology is a perfect, but primitive, example of this type of delusional mindset, which was later perfected by totalitarian parties. Jesus=Big Brother. The church=the party. Goldstein=satan. Hell=room 101(did I remember the number correctly?). In order to achieve eternal life you must sacrifice your self (like Jesus did on the cross) so that you can become a member of the church and live eternally. "Whoever does not hate his mother, father and brothers is not worthy of me"-Jesus/BigBrother (paraphrased because I'm to lazy to look up the exact quote) The apostle Paul even has his own version of "freedom is slavery" when writing about the benefits of submitting to the eternal cosmic dictator, Jesus. If you read this book as either anti-left or anti-right, you are completely missing the point.
rollsthepaul - 2011-12-05 12:19:15
Nothing is ever a waste. The worst of situations can and do serve as a bad example. There is but one source from which everything comes. It created Stalin and Ghandi. We need to pursue that which moves us, for without that, we will not develop spiritually, and spiritual growth, is the point of everything because we are spirit.
BoristheSpider - 2011-12-19 19:22:22

Obama is love

AJBarnes - 2012-02-26 10:14:56

The insight Orwell had when writing this book was beyond description. Ayn Rand comes closest with Atlas Shrugged, imho. Both political parties have overstepped their bounds. Jefferson wrote there were three purposes of government: protect us from invaders, mediate disputes and protect innocent third parties. Nowhere did he say largest land owner, largest employer, largest truck fleet operator, etc. etc. We have slowly traded our freedoms for (a perceived) security. As Ben Franklin wrote, those who do deserve neither. We have let laws be written that destroy individual freedoms in the name of greed. Look at how the movie and recording industries have outright bought politicians to write laws to have the gub'ment protect their income stream (SOPA). Look how others have written laws to eliminate competition in jobs (teacher's unions) so they don't have to worry about their horrible performance causing them to lose their jobs. (Unions, sending American jobs overseas for 100 years!) We need LESS gub'ment and we desperately need to get back to a society where we rely on individual responsibility, initiative, and self determination. We need less of gub'ment handouts and corporate theft. Otherwise, we're destined to end up where Orwell predicted... Remember, those who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul. Oh, and thanks for including the last sentence in your quotes. Makes me want to read it again.

Anonymous - 2012-03-06 22:51:03
@KEITH: Learn some US history.
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Mr meow - 2012-05-23 20:52:37

"What are you? a bag of filth. Now turn around and look into that mirror again. Do you see that thing facing you? That is the last man. If you are human, that is humanity. Now put your clothes on again" ... This should have been #1 in a top ten of depressing quotes

Marcus Tristan - 2012-07-21 05:16:13

Sounds like the world the Chicago School have brought about then . . .

John Douglas - 2012-10-10 19:06:50

Its obvious! 1984 is the voice of the tubercle bacillus, the cause of tuberculosis that Orwell had when he wrote 1984. The tuberculosis bacteria are intracellular parasites that use us to reproduce and then kill us when they're done with us. They made it to Orwell's brain, integrated with it and gave its message to the world through George Orwell. Google Apocalyptic and tuberculosis together and you will see the future.

against war - 2012-11-20 18:11:45

Ya"ll do know its not nice to cuss but everyones got there own opinion. I actually thought the book was pretty good. He's pretty good at telling what is happening now. Tell you the truth,I'm kinda scared but I'm not going to be here when the wold goes down b/c I'm going to be in heaven. I don't like all the word porn in this book. Its horrible. I wish y'all the best of luck in reading future.

jethro - 2012-12-03 12:52:18

This is my first post since the election-- I can't help but see the world spiraling downward as in the novel 1984. We are getting mighty close! The left won and they STILL go about posting their nasty dribble and often indicate between the lines that they'd love to impose their ideals on everyone else. So we now have Islam being the only "tolerated" religion, while Christianity is openly targeted. We see Islam and Communism links in many other parts of the world-- this is deliberate on the part of the Muslim mullahs. When there is a religious void (Marxism creates the void), Islam fills in and is especially attractive to the world's undereducated people because of its simplicity. Now I find the curious thing to be the intellectuals in this nation (and to a degree in Europe) "tolerating" Islam with their mutilation of women, decapitations of non-believers, honor killings, removal of body parts without anesthesia as punishment for minor or mostly imagined or trumped up "crimes," etc. I always thought western intellectuals would seriously frown upon all that stuff as they are gross violations of freedom, yet they remain silent. WHY??? I think it goes along with the novel, 1984, with the prospects of the "thought-control" police. To me, Orwell nails life under Islam, and the intellectuals tolerate Islam because it is an instrument for all the control of the masses that they appear to crave.

Richard - 2013-01-11 11:58:38

I am seeking the accurate quote of what's simply necessary for Powers ["Big Brother"] to rule completely. It may have contained: ability to control teacher unions, police/courts, news coverage, and other such items. (In comparison to today's circumstances, this 1949 novel, is startling to say the least.) This list occurred around 2/3 of the way through the book.

lara - 2013-03-17 07:15:04

amazing quotes but in which page are they?

Marlboro Jones - 2013-03-25 11:47:45

FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD Eric Blair Rocks with my two favorite pieces of literature ever. Does my name have any meaning?

Sammy - 2013-03-27 17:13:19

I found myself sinking lower and lower and lower into my seat as I finished this book, even for the second time. You feel like it's going to get better. You feel like everything's going to be okay...but it's not. The very last sentence just kills me each and every time I read it. But wow. 1984 has got to be one of my most favorite books of all time.

Revontulet - 2013-04-17 19:04:31

"The only way to have perfect security is to have a perfect surveillance state" - George Orwell

L Montes - 2013-06-12 12:16:09

This is all too real..! Check the size of our "Big Brother". Today, I feel as the average German citizen did in 1938. If I chose to do nothing, I condemn myself to feel the same as they did in May 1945. (Responsible)

Cool story - 2014-01-06 23:56:37

If you're upset about the spoiler it serves you right for not finishing it yet.

Jonny Vincent - 2014-05-29 16:29:10

You can't fight them. They're too big. Too violent. Too psychotic. Too certain of their ultimate aims. Too needy. You can't reason with them. They're completely insane. They already know all of knowledge already. They know what they don't know isn't worth knowing. They don't know truth. Logic is meaningless to them. Evidence, data, proof, facts; reality is just another opinion to them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and their opinion is anyone who doesn't agree with them should die. Their opinion is that you should die wanting to please them, so you can't win. They Know Best. Born. Suffer. Die. There's no reward. There's no meaning. There's no point. There is pain and there is relief. When they disapprove, they'll torture you. When they approve, they stop. Pain and relief. It's not happiness but you'd be surprised at how confusing pain can be. Many people make that mistake. You will suffer to please them because if you don't, you will suffer for that mistake. Minimise your suffering. Do what they say. You can't leave without pain. They need your suffering. Try not to think about it. Sometimes that helps. They won't take care of themselves so you can't go anywhere. They Know Best. There's no hope. This evil is too great. No one comes to your aid. There's nothing they can do. You're on your own. But it's all right, everything is all right, the struggle is finished. Amnesia is an infantile concern. Let infants worry about it. Mind your own business. Toddlers are on their own. For you, the struggle is finished. You have won the victory over yourself. You love Big Mother.

Steve - 2014-06-15 14:17:30

'Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.' .. stuck with me more than any other line .. so was Orwell a member of the Inner Party? .. love the book, struggling with the ending ..